(19 Sep 2024)
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London, UK – 19 September 2024
1. Wide of British lawyer Geoffrey Nice, who prosecuted former Yugoslav and Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic, being interviewed
2. SOUNDBITE (English) Geoffrey Nice, lawyer:
"It’s pretty obvious here, a war crime, and we should call it out for what it is. I think as a general point, we’ve got to recognize that political leaders and international bodies are very reluctant to use clear terminology where clear terminology would help the citizen. The conflict between Israel and Gaza is being conducted in a criminal way on both sides."
3. Wide of Nice
4. SOUNDBITE (English) Geoffrey Nice, lawyer:
"What’s being done is very little different conceptually from what Hamas does when it tries to lob rockets – unaimed rockets, unguided rockets – at civilian areas."
5. Mid of Nice
6. SOUNDBITE (English) Geoffrey Nice, lawyer:
"And if you can’t assess with reasonable accuracy what the intended and the collateral damage is going to be, then it can’t be proportionate. And it’s interesting that Israel, being the subject of so many discussions about this point, has been very limited in providing any asserted calculation of proportionality. Its basic position seems to be in respect of either Hamas or now Hezbollah, that if you get one person, then any collateral damage is justified."
7. Nice’s hands
8. SOUNDBITE (English) Geoffrey Nice, lawyer:
"Well, Lebanon itself has blown hot and cold about inviting the ICC to have jurisdiction, but the UN can always refer the matter, and it should. And we’re living in a very unsettled position so far as international order and international law is concerned. Politicians, when it suits them, say they believe in an international order and they believe in the development of international criminal accountability mechanisms and possibly for some countries they believe in and wish to support the International Criminal Court. But their action sometimes suggest that they don’t really mean what they sometimes say."
9. Wide of Nice
STORYLINE:
British lawyer Geoffrey said on Thursday he believed that this week’s deadly explosions of pagers and walkie-talkies in Lebanon are "a war crime."
“It’s pretty obvious here it’s a war crime. And we should call it out for what it is," said Nice, who prosecuted former Yugoslav and Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic.
The device explosions appeared to be the culmination of a monthslong operation by Israel to target as many Hezbollah members as possible all at once.
Over two days, pagers and walkie-talkies used by Hezbollah detonated, wounding and even crippling some fighters, but also maiming civilians connected to the group’s social branches and killing at least two children.
Nice said he wasn’t aware of a precedent where so many civilian devices exploded, or legal consequence for such action, while adding that "what’s being done is very little different conceptually from what Hamas does when it tries to lob rockets — unaimed rockets, unguided rockets — at civilian areas.”
Lebanon is still reeling from the deadly device attacks of Tuesday and Wednesday.
The explosions have rattled anxious Lebanese fearing a full-scale war. The Lebanese Army said it has been locating and detonating suspicious pagers and communication devices, while the country’s civil aviation authorities banned pagers and walkie-talkies on all airplanes departing from Beirut’s international airport until further notice.
AP video by Kwiyeon Ha
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